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Snow Bunny · Apr 14, 2009, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Wait, you just got Seppo Hovi Action Team's tag banned?
dick move. This whole thread was about how much of a jerk someone was to get a guild banned because they failed tryouts, and now you get a top guild censured because you were testing it out?

I'm sorry, but wow.

RotteN · Apr 14, 2009, 09:27 PM // 21:27

This actually proves how stupid this entire system is.

[pre][Shat] has been around for ages, has been on observer a lot, they even played the februari mAT finals ...

If one guy can simply go out and report them and the guild gets just stone-cold banned? What kind of policy is that?

Btw, it was indeed not realy the point of this thread to get other guilds banned aswell (on the contrairy). I hope [Shat] gets unbanned swiftly aswell.[/pre]

lord of all tyria · Apr 14, 2009, 09:34 PM // 21:34

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Originally Posted by Empress Amarox

It seems I was right, it was ban-worthy according to Anet policy:

And that wasn't trying to grief, that's just appropriate.

Christ, go and kill yourself.

kedde · Apr 14, 2009, 09:34 PM // 21:34

As I posted on QQ, I'll restate:

What the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO.

Miss Puddles · Apr 14, 2009, 09:45 PM // 21:45

I think every possible offensive name has been theorized in this thread already, which is quickly going nowhere. Close please.

Snow Bunny · Apr 14, 2009, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by Miss Puddles

I think every possible offensive name has been theorized in this thread already, which is quickly going nowhere. Close please.

Way to try and user-moderate the thread without actually understanding the point.

The point was that some jerk intentionally got a guild banned for an unintentional offense.

Now another person, for sake of experimentation, decided to report another guild.

The point is that the GMs are blatantly not doing any serious investigation into the manner.

Miss Puddles · Apr 14, 2009, 09:54 PM // 21:54

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

The point was that some jerk intentionally got a guild banned for an unintentional offense.

Be it a guild name or character name, MY point was that the discussion on undeserved bans has run its course.

DarkNecrid · Apr 14, 2009, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by Miss Puddles

Be it a guild name or character name, MY point was that the discussion on undeserved bans has run its course.

No it really hasn't, GMs not investigating stuff and discussing it (whooah discussing stuff on a forum, crazy) is still going on, and a guild that has been around forever just possibly (still don't have a confirm if it was a hard ban or not...) got banned cause 1 person reported them.

Your guild name is technically against their policy for example:
*Reference illegal drugs or activities.
Last time I checked thievery is illegal, guess all it takes is that Empress person to report you and it's gg.

Now I really doubt you or anyone else here thinks it's an offensive name, but all it takes apparently is one random dude to press the trigger and the GMs just go with it. Shat has nothing to do with shitting, it's an acronym for their guild name, and their guilds actual name is harmless Finnish words. How is that offensive, pray tell?

Empress Amarox · Apr 14, 2009, 10:02 PM // 22:02

I wasn't experimenting.. O.o..

Shat is a vulgar word, why should they get to keep it? >.>

You could have a guild name Friendly Under Chocolate Kisses, and yes, that tag would be quite inappropriate, "acronym" or not.

DarkNecrid · Apr 14, 2009, 10:10 PM // 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Empress Amarox

I wasn't experimenting.. O.o..

Shat is a vulgar word, why should they get to keep it? >.>

You could have a guild name Friendly Under Chocolate Kisses, and yes, that tag would be quite inappropriate, "acronym" or not.

That tag is impossible because it's blocked by the filter. The thing is, Shat doesn't make inappropriate references to bodily functions. Maybe if the name was like "We Did This In Your Shoes {Shat}" or something, sure, but it's clearly just the initials of the guild name, and relatively harmless in the long run. [vibe] is more offensive than this, seriously. I mean hell, I could technically report your guild name for referencing illegal activities, Cheating isn't legal, but you're about as much referencing it as Shat was referencing shitting.

RotteN · Apr 14, 2009, 10:13 PM // 22:13

The thing is, Anet never realy actively searches for offensive guild names. They just seem to insta-ban the ones that get reported.

This creates a strong atmosphere of "unfairness". You either enforce a ruleset very strict, or you leave it open for debate consulting both parties involved. The kind of one-sided bans they have now, are simply retarded.

kalzu · Apr 14, 2009, 10:16 PM // 22:16

Apparently we (Shat) will only get our tag changed or something since I can invite guests and promote members just fine. Martin Carebear ownzz.

But still, the white knights of GWguru came rushing to the rescue about 2 years late. :{D

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Originally Posted by Empress Amarox

*shrug*.. Maybe Shat'll get banned. They kinda deserve it, name policy-wise. It does have 2 vulgar words, one of which is a common English vernacular which is known to be vulgar even.

I'm actually curious to hear what the 2nd one is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Empress Amarox

I wasn't experimenting.. O.o..

Shat is a vulgar word, why should they get to keep it? >.>

You could have a guild name Friendly Under Chocolate Kisses, and yes, that tag would be quite inappropriate, "acronym" or not.

P.S. Anet delivers.

MagicalHobo · Apr 14, 2009, 10:16 PM // 22:16

DarkNecrid (or anyone else who may know), are the members of {Shat] Finnish, or did they simply use Finnish words in their tag for reasons known to them? Reason being that if they are indeed Finnish, they may not have known that {Shat] was offensive, thus giving the members of {Shat] something to appeal with.

Edit: damn it, so that's why you used brackets.

Edit2: Nevermind, looks like it was resolved...kinda. Darned connection! D: Anyway, happy to hear Shat is going to be ok. ANet needs to review their policy a bit though...

Empress Amarox · Apr 14, 2009, 10:18 PM // 22:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalzu

I'm actually curious to hear what the 2nd one is.

http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_561548090/seppo.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

I mean hell, I could technically report your guild name for referencing illegal activities, Cheating isn't legal.

Knock yourself out. I'll let cha know if they ban it. Better yet, you let me know, since I don't play anymore and I'm the only one in it that has logged on the past 2+ months.

kedde · Apr 14, 2009, 10:22 PM // 22:22

DoDo was originally banned because of "fecal references".
Now I fint it to be ridiculous how another, 1 claim of injustice is enough, they're off the ladder which is a pretty bad sign.

What is also even worse is the simple fact that GM's are blatantly lying in the face of people every time they say a guild cannot be unbanned.
It happened with DoDo, several times it was claimed to us that unbanning it was impossible, while that is simply untrue, as proven by the original incarnation of [Vibe] and now SuKa, while we would've wanted DoDo by a tenfold.

That combined with no background research whatsoever makes this all seem like a hilarious joke, run at a kindergarten level of competence.

I truly appreciate Martins intervention and his sense of humour, but the root of the problem is still alive and kicking.

As far as I know, the retard who reported us is/was even in a guild with a much more suggestive and offensive name.

Vondersekz [xxx] say you anything?

Also, glad to hear you guys didn't suffer harshly from this as that'd be utterly retarded.

DarkNecrid · Apr 14, 2009, 10:23 PM // 22:23

Good to hear you guys only got an actual censor ban and not the full thing.

@MagicalHobo Yes, they're Finnish I do believe. Seppo just happens to be Australian slang (yeah, it's not even a real word, go figure!). Seppo and Hovi are both Finnish words though.

fowlero · Apr 14, 2009, 10:28 PM // 22:28

Pretty RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing amazing.

Nice to see martin is actually a proactive CR though, not that it really makes up for the whole system being shown to be completely retarded.

MagicalHobo · Apr 14, 2009, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by DarkNecrid

@MagicalHobo Yes, they're Finnish I do believe. Seppo just happens to be Australian slang (yeah, it's not even a real word, go figure!). Seppo and Hovi are both Finnish words though.

Alright, thanks for the answer.

I do hope Regina and Martin pass this on to Gaile. Bit ridiculous. :S

Regina Buenaobra · Apr 14, 2009, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Martin and I have been speaking to Gaile extensively today about these two incidents. Unfortunately, we don't have the functionality to let people rename their guilds, which would be the ideal situation.

Lonesamurai · Apr 14, 2009, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

Martin and I have been speaking to Gaile extensively today about these two incidents. Unfortunately, we don't have the functionality to let people rename their guilds, which would be the ideal situation.

Sorry to be the one to bring this up, but how is it possible to change a Tag for a guild and not the guilds full name?

Are they separate items of code and one can be changed and one can't?